## on nock.c CLAUDE: The key is that call_count is static (shared across ALL function calls), while my_call is local (each function call gets its own copy on the stack). Here's what happens without my_call: 1. Call #0 ENTERS → logs "ENTER call #0", call_count becomes 1 2. Call #1 ENTERS (recursive) → logs "ENTER call #1", call_count becomes 2 3. Call #2 ENTERS (recursive) → logs "ENTER call #2", call_count becomes 3 4. Call #2 EXITS → logs "EXIT call #2" using (call_count-1 = 2) ✓ Correct! 5. Call #1 EXITS → logs "EXIT call #1" using (call_count-1 = 2) ✗ Wrong! Should be 1 6. Call #0 EXITS → logs "EXIT call #0" using (call_count-1 = 2) ✗ Wrong! Should be 0 The problem: by the time call #0 exits, call_count has already been incremented by all the recursive calls. With my_call (a local variable): 1. Call #0: my_call=0 (saved on stack), call_count++ 2. Call #1: my_call=1 (saved on stack), call_count++ 3. Call #2: my_call=2 (saved on stack), call_count++ 4. Call #2 EXITS → uses its own my_call=2 ✓ 5. Call #1 EXITS → uses its own my_call=1 ✓ 6. Call #0 EXITS → uses its own my_call=0 ✓ Each recursive call preserves its own my_call value on the stack, so the EXIT log always matches the ENTER log! This is a classic recursion pattern in C: use static variables for things you want to share across calls (like a counter), but capture their values in local variables if you need them to survive recursion. ## after first round on vere CLAUDE: Current Logging Features The C Nock interpreter now logs: - Call number: Unique ID for each Nock evaluation (call #0, #1, etc.) - Recursion depth: Indented to show call hierarchy - Opcode: The Nock rule being executed (0-12) or CELL for distribution - Subject type: Whether the subject (bus) is a cell or atom - Mug: Hash of the subject/result for tracking identical nouns - Return value type: Cell or atom with its mug Example Pattern from the Log >>> ENTER call #8 depth=5 opcode=8 bus=cell[mug=0x5cc2e3ff] >>> ENTER call #9 depth=6 opcode=8 bus=cell[mug=0x528e9b65] <<< EXIT call #9 depth=6 returns=cell[mug=0x6d2bc01f] >>> ENTER call #10 depth=6 opcode=8 bus=cell[mug=0x479b42af] <<< EXIT call #10 depth=6 returns=cell[mug=0x6d2bc01f] <<< EXIT call #8 depth=5 returns=cell[mug=0x6d2bc01f] This shows: opcode 8 (Nock Eight = extend subject) calling itself recursively twice, both returning the same noun (mug 0x6d2bc01f). # on vere mugs CLAUDE: how can C output the mugs *so fast* even for huge nouns like the huge pill. You say it's caching them but it still has to compute them at first ● Excellent question! The answer is that C doesn't compute mugs on-demand - mugs are computed at allocation time and stored inline in the noun structure itself! In C's u3 system, every noun (atom or cell) has a mug field built into its memory layout. When you allocate a noun with u3i_* or u3nc(), the mug is computed immediately and stored. So u3r_mug() is just a memory read - instant! Here's the key difference: C (vere/pkg/noun/allocate.c): // Nouns store mugs inline: typedef struct { c3_w mug_w; // ← Mug stored here! c3_w len_w; c3_w buf_w[]; } u3a_atom; // u3r_mug() just reads the field: c3_w u3r_mug(u3_noun veb) { return u3a_to_pug(u3a_to_ptr(veb))->mug_w; // Just a memory read! } OCaml (our current approach): type noun = | Atom of Z.t (* No mug field! *) | Cell of noun * noun (* No mug field! *) (* We compute mugs on-demand with caching *) let mug noun = (* ... expensive recursive computation ... *) To match C's performance, we'd need to change OCaml's noun type to: type noun = | Atom of { z: Z.t; mutable mug: int32 option } | Cell of { h: noun; t: noun; mutable mug: int32 option } This would let us compute once and store inline like C. Should we implement this now, or continue with the current cache approach?